Is it really necessary to have both "Verified" and "Validated" as two separate categories when they mean exactly the same thing?
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Your explanations are of a really bad quality since your claims are inconsistent. If you first say that the GRG started implementing the term "validated" a decade ago but there are tables that still use the term "verified" as of today (the 2015 version was uploaded in late 2016/ early 2017) it is bound to cause issues when people edit.
I understand the difference perfectly well and am only pointing out that this controversy causes problems. When was the last time I used the term "verified" in any edit on this wikia? I have actually had edits I made to correct the term "verified" to "validated" undone by others here because "verified" is the term that is mostly used by most users.
Check the 110 Club, which most of the editors come from, there the term "verified" is the most commonly used term. The most viewed tables here on this Wikia also use the term "verified". If a change from "verified" to "validated" should be made a bigger announcement of this should be made because few users actually participate in these discussion.
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Ryoung122 wrote:
The GRG also uses "validated".
930310JL wrote:
Since the lists are based on the GRG data (at least the validated/verified cases) it only seems logical that the same term (verified) exists in the Wikia-lists as on the GRG lists.
Since the lists are based on the GRG data (at least the validated/verified cases) it only seems logical that the same term (verified) exists in the Wikia-lists as on the GRG lists.
The GRG also uses "validated".
Is there any reason that you are arguing this? Please explain how making this easier for everyone (using one term consistently instead of two) is not helpful?Ryoung122 (talk) 02:56, January 23, 2017 (UTC)
Some of the most cited GRG tables use the term "Verified".
http://www.grg.org/Adams/A.HTM "Table A - Verified Supercentenarians (Listed Chronologically By Birth Date)
http://www.grg.org/Adams/B.HTM "Table B - Verified Supercentenarians (Ranked By Age)"
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Since the lists are based on the GRG data (at least the validated/verified cases) it only seems logical that the same term (verified) exists in the Wikia-lists as on the GRG lists.
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Ryoung122 wrote:
930310JL: Please note that it is not "some users". This isn't a "push." This executive decision has already been made at the highest levels. While scientists have sometimes used the words "interchangeably", this has led to confusion. For example, one could say, "I verified that validated supercentenarian XYZ died on Day Q." With the word "verified" being a broader umbrella term, we are now clarifying that we are using the "validated" concept, which is from science and has a more narrow definition. The GRG had already started making the change as early as 2004 (go to grg.org and click on "Publications").Ryoung122 (talk) 17:50, January 19, 2017 (UTC)
930310JL wrote:
Considering that some users are pushing for "verified" being replaced by "validated", I believe that this should be edited.
Considering that some users are pushing for "verified" being replaced by "validated", I believe that this should be edited.
930310JL: Please note that it is not "some users". This isn't a "push." This executive decision has already been made at the highest levels. While scientists have sometimes used the words "interchangeably", this has led to confusion. For example, one could say, "I verified that validated supercentenarian XYZ died on Day Q." With the word "verified" being a broader umbrella term, we are now clarifying that we are using the "validated" concept, which is from science and has a more narrow definition. The GRG had already started making the change as early as 2004 (go to grg.org and click on "Publications").Ryoung122 (talk) 17:50, January 19, 2017 (UTC)
GRG tables still use the term "verified" as of 2015.
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Considering that some users are pushing for "verified" being replaced by "validated", I believe that this should be edited.
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